Mi4c - Successfully Flashed Eu-6.1.21 Without Unlocking Bootloader - How To Clean Up?

[endy123]

Greetings friends, I have one specific question:
* I bought my mi4c from China with full of chineese bloatware, that's why I flashed image from xiaomi.eu.
However, when the Updater app wants to update MIUI, it will replace xiaomi.eu image with chinnese version?
I thought the updater got updates from xiaomi.eu.. wrong thinking?

 

[Bryan Maldonado]

If you are on the xiaomi.eu then updater will get xiaomi.eu updates only.

 

[Prettygrim]

well, as far as i am aware, i was on the Xiaomi.eu rom but the phone still took the official 6.1.14 update and locked the bootloader. it then took the 6.1.21 update as well. maybe i wasn't on the rom i thought, which could explain the updating but i was also of the opinion that i had turned off auto updating as well, which proved to be not the case.

something else i have read several references to is that the china developer roms gave root. after having serious issues with my phone before, i used that info and put a china rom on the phone. that definitely didn't give me root and i had to manually go through the hoops to get it. not that it did me any good, after all.

i find it frustrating and annoying that companies have to give out false information when trying to sell something, then retract the sales info once the money starts coming in. customer concerns go straight out the window! even worse when info is put out to neutralise customer concerns, ie the code appeal, only to find out that this also seems to be more BS!! not good!!

 

[endy123]

well, as far as i am aware, i was on the Xiaomi.eu rom but the phone still took the official 6.1.14 update and locked the bootloader. it then took the 6.1.21 update as well. maybe i wasn't on the rom i thought, which could explain the updating but i was also of the opinion that i had turned off auto updating as well, which proved to be not the case.

something else i have read several references to is that the china developer roms gave root. after having serious issues with my phone before, i used that info and put a china rom on the phone. that definitely didn't give me root and i had to manually go through the hoops to get it. not that it did me any good, after all.

i find it frustrating and annoying that companies have to give out false information when trying to sell something, then retract the sales info once the money starts coming in. customer concerns go straight out the window! even worse when info is put out to neutralise customer concerns, ie the code appeal, only to find out that this also seems to be more BS!! not good!!

Just went through process myself and didnt get root as well..
Anyways, I was able to flash TWRP and then restore my backup. So now I'm ok.
However, I'm puzzled, how to tell whether I'm on chinnese rom or xiaomi.eu? is there quick way to see this?

 

[herculino]

i dont mean to be angry but when a purchase is made, based on the info from the seller/manufacturer and then it's found to be nothing except a way of luring people in to part with hard earned cash, then kick those same customers by removing the very features that made the customer decide to make that purchase, it's more than just a bit frustrating! it's even worse when you have very limited knowledge of working on phones, worse when the steps being given to try to achieve a particular result wont even come up let alone work! i cant even get the real 'recovery' to start, let alone get another rom on the phone! then, the con being used to get customers trust back, the 'apply for an unlock code' doesn't even materialise, in fact it removes the last little bit of trust and respect, if there was any left! if any company deserves to get the rage of users, it is Xiaomi/Miui!! they are proving to be worse than Apple, in my opinion!

Where did you buy your phone?
They are the only responsible for your troubles, they took your brand new phone and changed the original official stable rom with whatever you have now, most probable with tons of malware.
You have the option to ask for a refund to the seller, or you can have an unlock form Xiaomi, is a time consuming process anyway.
What is sure is that the Mi4C you have is exactly the phone that Xiaomi is advertising, no more no less. Anywhere it says that the phone must have an open bootloader, what is even more, the rom that Xiaomi put in their phones when it leaves the factory is the latest stable version, and this is not locked.

I hope that you can fix your troubles and start to enjoy your Mi4C as many others are doing already.

Best regards form Zaragoza.

 

[herculino]

Just went through process myself and didnt get root as well..
Anyways, I was able to flash TWRP and then restore my backup. So now I'm ok.
However, I'm puzzled, how to tell whether I'm on chinnese rom or xiaomi.eu? is there quick way to see this?

Just go to settings/About phone and read MIUI version. Not sure about what a xiaomi.eu version sets here, the latest official stable version (Chinesse/English) says: MIUI 7.1|Stable 7.1.6.0(LXKCNCK)

Check in the forum, its easy to find what other roms says. If yours says something like 6.6.99 or 66.55.xx or thing like this, you have a faked rom, probably whith malware and publicity that you don't need.

Best regards form Zaragoza.

 

[herculino]

well, as far as i am aware, i was on the Xiaomi.eu rom but the phone still took the official 6.1.14 update and locked the bootloader. it then took the 6.1.21 update as well. maybe i wasn't on the rom i thought, which could explain the updating but i was also of the opinion that i had turned off auto updating as well, which proved to be not the case.

something else i have read several references to is that the china developer roms gave root. after having serious issues with my phone before, i used that info and put a china rom on the phone. that definitely didn't give me root and i had to manually go through the hoops to get it. not that it did me any good, after all.

i find it frustrating and annoying that companies have to give out false information when trying to sell something, then retract the sales info once the money starts coming in. customer concerns go straight out the window! even worse when info is put out to neutralise customer concerns, ie the code appeal, only to find out that this also seems to be more BS!! not good!!

It's quite clear that you were not in a Xiaomi.eu rom, most probable in a custom/fake rom form your retailer.

Check this info so that you get real information form Xiaomi about whats going on with root access and bootloader block.
http://en.miui.com/thread-201477-1-1.html
http://en.miui.com/thread-185414-1-1.html

http://en.miui.com/thread-202290-1-1.html

I really don't understand why you insist telling that Xiaomi has give out false information for selling more phones....the phone does exactly what is supposed to do and works great, in any place it says "buy my phone, you can do whatever you want with it and its rom"

Anyway, I hope you can solve your troubles soon and start to enjoy your great phone, otherwise you can just return it to the shop where you bought it form or sell it in a forum.

Best regards form Zaragoza

 

[endy123]

Just go to settings/About phone and read MIUI version. Not sure about what a xiaomi.eu version sets here, the latest official stable version (Chinesse/English) says: MIUI 7.1|Stable 7.1.6.0(LXKCNCK)

Check in the forum, its easy to find what other roms says. If yours says something like 6.6.99 or 66.55.xx or thing like this, you have a faked rom, probably whith malware and publicity that you don't need.

Best regards form Zaragoza.

Thank you for your info.
Right now, I'm at: MIUI 7 5.12.31 | Beta

I wonder, what happens, if I download latest eu rom to my phone and via Update -> Choose update package -> I pick downloaded rom and I flash it.
What do you think will happen? Could I brick my phone?

 

[Prettygrim]

It's quite clear that you were not in a Xiaomi.eu rom, most probable in a custom/fake rom form your retailer.

Check this info so that you get real information form Xiaomi about whats going on with root access and bootloader block.
http://en.miui.com/thread-201477-1-1.html
http://en.miui.com/thread-185414-1-1.html

http://en.miui.com/thread-202290-1-1.html

I really don't understand why you insist telling that Xiaomi has give out false information for selling more phones....the phone does exactly what is supposed to do and works great, in any place it says "buy my phone, you can do whatever you want with it and its rom"

Anyway, I hope you can solve your troubles soon and start to enjoy your great phone, otherwise you can just return it to the shop where you bought it form or sell it in a forum.

Best regards form Zaragoza

hi. the rom that was on the phone was reported to be full of malware. i replaced that and have been receiving ota updates. however, i had installed TWRP and rooted the phone. i was not only happy with the phone, i was impressed with it too until the enforced update 6.1.14. i was of the opinion that i had turned off auto updates but it seems not. since then it took thelatest update too and the phone was misbehaving considerably, hence the factory reset. i just hope that Xiaomi relent and give customers the unlock code or wahtever to allow us to re-root etc.

 

[Prettygrim]

Just went through process myself and didnt get root as well..
Anyways, I was able to flash TWRP and then restore my backup. So now I'm ok.
However, I'm puzzled, how to tell whether I'm on chinnese rom or xiaomi.eu? is there quick way to see this?

would you mind telling how you got TWRP back on to the phone, please? i was of the opinion you couldn't do that unless the bootloader was unlocked. when i tried after the bootloader was locked, i couldn't get into TWRP and couldn't root of change rom. if i could do that, it would at least be partway to getting back to how the phone was, ie, working very well!!

 

[Olga]

seller of my phone unpacked the phone, and also flashed that 77.00... ****** rom. i didn't even entered any password there as it is fake miui. i can see it fast enough, as i use miui for ~3 years starting from mi2s.

those fake miuis are the reason for bootloader locking actually. however i believe miui-china-devs should have had their own kinda eu-version, without chinese symbols and apps at all, and with 'google play' out of the box. so people wouldn't need even xiaomi-eu rom anymore.

 

[spielerman]

@Olga what is the reason for a seller to flash a ****** ROM?

 

[Olga]

what is the reason for a seller to flash a ****** ROM?

to have 'google play' there, as there will be plenty of returns if there is no expected google services in place.

i can see that xiaomi globalization strategy is pretty slow.. Hugo Barra didn't help much?

 

[spielerman]

@Olga I see, but why sellers are not installing xiaomi.eu ROM?

 

[Olga]

I see, but why sellers are not installing xiaomi.eu ROM?

good question. i don't have data/facts, so i can just assume that there may be some software installed which gives some benefits to sellers (e.g. ads, bots, aggregators of user data for ad-purposes, ..).

 

[endy123]

would you mind telling how you got TWRP back on to the phone, please? i was of the opinion you couldn't do that unless the bootloader was unlocked. when i tried after the bootloader was locked, i couldn't get into TWRP and couldn't root of change rom. if i could do that, it would at least be partway to getting back to how the phone was, ie, working very well!!

I flashed flashed china-dev-6.1.7.
Then, via fastboot, I flashed TWRP.
And then I used one of the TWRP backups to roll back to previous versions, where I had root and all the apps installed.

 

[endy123]

Thank you for your info.
Right now, I'm at: MIUI 7 5.12.31 | Beta

I wonder, what happens, if I download latest eu rom to my phone and via Update -> Choose update package -> I pick downloaded rom and I flash it.
What do you think will happen? Could I brick my phone?

I could not wait for some answers so I went on and installed eu miui via updater and it worked

 

[Prettygrim]

I flashed flashed china-dev-6.1.7.
Then, via fastboot, I flashed TWRP.
And then I used one of the TWRP backups to roll back to previous versions, where I had root and all the apps installed.

sorry for the delayed reply. i have just tried to put the same China rom on my phone as you used. yet again, i got the same message as always since the forced update 61.14 which locked the bootloader. the message is 'Cant verify update', the phone then sits there doing nothing until i select a task. when i use the 'Reboot to recovery' option, the phone just sits there again doing nothing, then the image of the phone appears on screen with the USB cable attached or detached depending on whether the cable is connected or not. again the phone just sits there until i do a forced reboot. this is so frustrating but even worse than locking the bootloader and failing to allow a different rom to be installed, why on earth would any product manufacturer stop one of it's own product functions? it makes no sense! if the phone does as has happened to many others and decides to misbehave even more than it is, how am i supposed to get it working?? i have gone from a very satisfied customer to one who is so p**d off with Xiaomi, i will not risk buying another of their products. they need some sort of legal action to be taken on them, especially if the company expects to suddenly become a major player outside Asia and inside the EU! pulling these stunts will get them in front of the EUCJ and they wont find that very nice!!

disgraceful attitude towards customers!!

 

[Olga]

in ~3 weeks i got that approval-sms =) good thing that i wasn't forced to wait so long

 

[Gil Edri]

Anyone knows if\where I can download china-dev-6.1.7?
In MIUI official download site (http en miui com/download-293.html) under 'Older versions' the oldest one is 6.1.14

Or will that work also with 6.1.14?
I'd really like to try this - my phone is currently on 6.2.25 Beta with bootloader locked and I need to put the multilanguage rom.

Thanks

 

[dingdong]

in ~3 weeks i got that approval-sms =) good thing that i wasn't forced to wait so long

are u a diamond member in that xiaomi chinese site?

 

[Javas]

Hello Olga,
i see your post and i'm triying to do the same as you, to put my phone in spanish. Can you send me a link to the china roms that you named in your post, i can't find them.

Thank's in advance.